These cagey enemies of God's people were destined to be destroyed, so they devised a simple, but clever scheme to deceive Israel in the hope of saving their own necks. I know that he had other family problems because the prophecies said that he would. This incident of the famine took place rather late in David's life. After that, they had their problems at Ai, and figured out that Achan was responsible for that. There were no cell phones. You're out of here!". "There was a famine in the days of King David for three years, year after year. Instead, the Gibeonites demanded the execution of seven of Saul's sons. II Samuel 21:1-2 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. But the massacre of the Gibeonites probably occurred after that. He did not do a thing that a king or judge should do. Can we assume that God was in any way propitiated at the conclusion of this story? No silver or gold from that house. Deceit and delusion are powerful spiritual weapons of destruction but they pale in potency compared to the creative and edifying Word of God come alive by faith in believers' hearts! What would be some verses from the Bible to save a marriage? WebAnd the Lord answered, Saul and his family of murderers are the reason for the famine, because he killed the Gibeonites. 2 (The Gibeonites were not Israelites. He was humble and relied on God, and was granted many victories over Israels enemies. Things started to go downhill over time however, as Saul became presumptuous and arrogant; he ignored several direct commands of God, and the last straw came when he interfered in offering a sacrifice to God, in direct contravention of what hed been told to do. It won't do anybody any good lying here dead. Had David been righteous and been crying out to God, God would have heard him. Had him over to the palace a few times." fit into Creation? but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. 0 responses Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. Hebrews 11 exhibits a whole chapter of men and women just like us who, despite their humanity and frequent foibles, fought the good fight of faith and were victorious in the end through the grace of God. He tried to come up with a compromise, and that was basically, "Whatever you want, you can have." No one killed king David. He died of old age, at the age of three score and ten (70 years). His son Solomon succeeded him. You might be thinking of It wouldnt be surprising if these people had become worshippers of God, from their exposure to the tabernacle and teaching. Let me ask God about this. Numbers 35:34 "Therefore do not defile the land which you inhabit, in the midst of which I dwell; for I the LORD dwell among the children of Israel.'". WebWhich city did Saul destroy when he found that its priests had given David's men provision? But it does not say so here in so many words. The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a Weba motive for Saul's attack on them. This is like offering them reparations for what Saul had done, and they replied that it was not good enough. This angered God and was only amended years later after sacrificing seven of Sauls sons to the Gibeonites by hanging them before Jehovah at Sauls hometown, Gibeah. After that, Gibeonites were no longer mentioned though there are some writers who believed that they were among the Nethinim, the ones selected to serve the temple. He did not do anything to directly intervene. He could have done whatever he wanted. the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.". Now, turn to the episode of King David, which we introduced. Because he may have been still depressed by Absalom's death. They had remembered it for 40 or 50 years. This could indicate that the sons of Saul were actively implicated in this attempted genocide, although we cannot tell for sure as the details of this awful event are not recorded. Saul, after having disqualified Joshua 9:14-16 Then the men of Israel took some of their provisions; but they did not ask counsel of the LORD. DECEPTION AND COST The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. At most it was about ten miles awaynot very far at all. Seven of Sauls descendants were hanged as a result. ", Or even after two years. The second is at the end of verse 2, that "Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for Israel and Judah." When asked about the time of the end; when questioned about the signs that would precede His Second Coming, our blessed Lord instinctively cautioned: "Take heed that no man deceive you." Things were going wrong. It does not matter. Although the people of Israel had sworn to spare them, Saul had sought to strike them down in his zeal for the people of Israel and Judah. So, give or take, 40 to 50 years have passed. There is another thing that needs to be thrown out there as a possible scenario, and this would have been the very worst and lowest that David could have sunk to. Their representatives were not up front with the Israeli leaders. He keeps his word even to his own disadvantage and does not change it [for his own benefit] (Psalm 15:1, 4; AMP). Verse 5 does not say that the guilt of a person extends to his great-great grandchildren. Notice the timing and the manner of the execution. The prophet Zechariah asks a question that is forever pertinent to all spiritual considerations and decisions: "For who hath despised the day of small things?" The verb is used in this sense with respect to Joshua's action toward the Gibeonites in Joshua 9:27, where cultic servitude is involved ("for the altar of the Lord"). Now the Gibeonites were not of the people of Israel but of the remnant of the Amorites. I also want you to see how warlike Saul was. So the king took Armoni and Mephibosheth, the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bore to Saul; and the five sons of Michal [Merabsee margin of most Bibles] the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite; and he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the LORD. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he. And she did not allow the birds of the air to rest on them by day nor the beasts of the field by night. He keeps his word even to his own disadvantage and does not change it [for his own benefit] (Psalm 15:1, 4; AMP). The Gibeonites presented themselves to the invading Israelites, not as nearby neighbors, but as distant foreigners who lived in a far-off land. There is demotion. Notice verse 2 says that Saul tried to strike them down in his zeal (also means jealously or envy) for the people of Israel and Judah. Other Translations for 2 Samuel 21:1 Discussion for 2 Samuel 21 View All And the LORD answered, It is because of Saul and his bloodthirsty house, Two years is a long time. He was tired of life, tired of war, tired of all the politics, tired of all the rebellion, tired of Joab. Saul and the heir to the throne, his son, Jonathan, were killed in a battle with the Philistines, and by popular acclamation, David became the King of Israel. On the other hand, when people do well, like Abraham, and they live God's way of life, this allows God the leeway to show mercy unto thousands of generations of people. Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." How far away was Gilgal from Gibeon? My supposition is that he may have been still questioning God about the way his reign seemed to have crumbled, and all he had was enemies around him. To re-establish peace between the two tribes, David fulfills the Gibeonites request to sacrifice two heirs of Israels throne, Sauls sons and grandsons. If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating THE BATTLES OF THE LORD WebSaul kills the gentile Gibeonites (2 Sam 21) & banishes mediums in preparation for Tabernacle being moved from Nob to Gibeon. Saul killed a lot of people. Psalm 34:4-10 I sought the LORD, and He heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. Exodus 21:12-13 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." The Bible tells us that after Saul's death God sent a famine into the land mainly to get the attention of Saul's successor, King David. King Saul (and his house?) They looked to Him and were radiant, and their faces were not ashamed. He decided to let the Gibeonites dictate everything. "Now therefore, you are cursed, and none of you shall be freed from being slaveswoodcutters and water carriers for the house of my God." One other thing: Samuel said that God is not going to go back on His word. When asked about the time of the end; when questioned about the signs that would precede His Second Coming, our blessed Lord instinctively cautioned: "Take heed that no man deceive you." 2 So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. So let seven of Sauls sons or grandsons be handed over to us, and we will execute them before the Lord at Gibeon, on the mountain of the Lord.. It is for Saul. Saul, after having disqualified himself from being king, sought to ingratiate himself with God by killing Canaanites, including an unrecorded massacre of Gibeonites. 2 Samuel 21:2 At this, David summoned the Gibeonites and spoke to them. Why wasn't I told about this?" He will not relent. . But, very few people can relate to sinless perfection. I am just going to start with the backdrop to the incident. Only after three days did they discover that their "far-distant" allies were really next-door neighbors! WebDavid serves Saul with music on his harp Nov 24, 1025. ", "She's been doing that for six months? 21:1-11 ). Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. He got a little weird, throwing spears at David (and Jonathan too, once). And David was told what Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, the concubine of Saul, had done. He was distracted by the cares of this world, by the pulls of this, that, and the other thing, and so he gives in and compromises with the people of the land. And, it certainly does not record that David took this to God for His solution to it. So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. Here are guidelines to help facilitate a meaningful learning experience for everyone. He was setting us an example of what we should be doing in a spiritual sense. He received good marks in Scripture. Nevertheless, he names a few of them. The Israelites had been dealing with the Gibeonites, who were Hivitesand as it says here, they were a part of the Amorite peoplesince the first days in the land under Joshua. 'S death can we assume that God was in any way propitiated at the conclusion of this?. Murderers are the reason for the famine, because he may have been still by... 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